I cannot figure out if I can do all I want in one kiln or I need a seperate one for each thing? Anyone have any advice for me.
A few things I will be doing that would need a kiln:
* Fuse Glass
* Lost Wax Casting
* Ceramics
Can I do that all in one Kiln? Thanks for any help!
A few things I will be doing that would need a kiln:
* Fuse Glass
* Lost Wax Casting
* Ceramics
Can I do that all in one Kiln? Thanks for any help!
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Wed, September 19, 2007 - 7:59 PMIf you use the same kiln for glass & ceramics, you may end up with ceramics particles in your glass (not good), unless you're really, really meticulous about cleaning it between firings.
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Thu, September 20, 2007 - 8:55 AMNone currently, trying to research for my first kiln :) Ceramics would be far down the line really want it for pmc, annealing, fusing glass, and lost wax burnout. It is my understanding that I can do all that in one kiln if it gets upto around 2100. Any suggestions or research outlets for kilns would be most welcome - probably my single biggest investment to advance my art. -
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Sun, September 30, 2007 - 5:25 PMHi Jeffz,
I still haven't purchased my own yet either. It's a bit daunting. I guess there are a couple of key issues that I really need to decide on.
120 or 240v (240 means that I need to rewire to accommodate that)
Cost of initial investment (the kilns I've been looking at range from $800-ish for the Olympic 146/120v, up to $2200-ish for the nice big Paragan Pearl series). It's a big investment, and I want to make sure that I don't short-change myself at this stage.
Olympic boasts about their Model - 186GFETLC/120v as being the largest kiln running on 120v, and personally I'm eyeing the 146 square model. Plus, they have auto controllers and I"m lazy. However, max temp. may not work for you at 1700.
Someone I met the other day is emailing me info on how to build your own, which also sounds very interesting. Once I receive that info. I"ll forward it to you if you're interested.
Good luck!
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Sun, September 30, 2007 - 7:53 PMRemember that ANY kiln which runs on 120 volts is going to be expensive on your electric bill.
I have 220 (3 phase) coming into my shop off the street (there used to be a dairy across the street) and it has NEVER been more than $13.oo a month even when I'm going full bore. Having 220 (3 phase) power is like a huge pipe for electrons so they don't flow half as fast. It's WAY more efficient and much,much cheaper...But to get it there has to be a power pole near your studio with 3 cans on it (transformers). Otherwise it will be costly to have the power company bring it in...
Glad you two are in dialog since you're both my friends...
Many ceramicists make their own kilns and fire with wood all night or propane. It takes some work but it's not rocket science. Obviously it has to be outdoors and in a safe area. But you have the advantage of making it as big as you want...They would be a good source for info...
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Sun, September 30, 2007 - 8:30 PMI think I may be going cheap, especially since I am really just teaching myself most things so want an entry level kiln to get acquanted. Only really done lost-wax casting so the rest would be more experimental.
Thanks for the electricity info Stefan. I may be joining an art congolmerant here that lets you rent space, will have to ask them if they have 240v. I am sure they do since they have many ceramics people there.
Eyefleye the one I was eyeing is a Paragon Fly Kiln if curious secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/catalog.asp .
I am not sure about making one myself since I am a newbie and would not know exactly if it is working correctly. Would love to see it though in case it's something I can do! :D I have been reading a forum about backyard casting at www.webcom.com/sknkwrks/foundry.htm and www.backyardmetalcasting.com/for....php . Good luck to you also and let me know what you finally go with :D
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Sun, September 30, 2007 - 8:31 PM(oops sorry for spelling your name wrong Stephan!) -
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Sun, September 30, 2007 - 9:23 PMNo problem Jeffz,
,but it's actually spelled Stephen ,but pronounced like Steffan.(dyslexic parents you see).So you're half right anyway...
I was not referring to 240 volts.
I have 220volts but (3 phase power here). Not sure if that's important or not but Eyefly said 240v as well and that is probably SINGLE PHASE POWER.
There is a distinction...
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Re: Help with Kiln Info
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:19 AMHey Jeffz~
I'm a glassblower and jeweler. The whole mixing of different media in the kiln can be quite a messy situation. So if you're going to be fusing/slumping at 2100 degrees, I can assume you're melting soft glass? For a burn out cycle in lost wax you don't need to hit over 1300. My suggestion is to really think about how much of each you will do. Will you fuse more, or burn wax out more? Another thought on how to keep a kiln clean using different media, get yourself multiple kiln shelves, and change them out whenever you switch media.
I use an AIM kiln. They are located in corvallis, OR and are the bees knees!!!!!
check em out....www.1kiln.com/
good luck...Hopefully on day you won't need to worry about consolidating your work into one kiln....and can have a kiln dedicated to each art form....
Mike
